GnuSmalltalk: Alternative For Java-Oracle
By Funes, Manuel - Posted on May 17th, 2009
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ORACLE BUY SUN... and now ?
Well, Use Java form many years, and ever thing about why smalltalk is not the
choice ?
Answers:
1) Heavy Marketing ?
2) Lobby ?
3) Destiny :)
I Believe that: "The Real choice for Web Applications is now SMALLTALK".
for correct term: GNUsmalltalk. Turn my site for: SmallTalk Full User !
Seaside is a great alternative to similar base software to web.
Thanks.
email: manuel.funes@funes.com.br
http://www.funes.com.br
AFAIK the pharo spin off from squeak is MIT, isnt it?
If this is true I would see GNUSmalltalk to be less free
and people may switch to a more open Smalltalk like Squeak
or Pharo.
So why not switch to MIT too, in the end I think it would
help the GNUSmalltalk community to grow.
Look at my previous comment : as I've said the C code of GST is under GPL but the Smalltalk code is under the *LESSER* GPL so you can create closed software with this licence ...
Yes, but GPL has a viral effect, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License
So wouldnt it help to push Smalltalk by choosing a more liberal license for both (image and VM)?
GNU-ST is a nice implementation of the Smalltalk language - but I think this is what holding it back from broader audience compared to other more open implementations like Squeak or Pharo
hmmm this is my opinion and not the opinion of Paolo, for me this is not really a problem at the VM side. 'Software under the GPL never "attacks" and "infects" other software' rather, software under the GPL is like a spider plant: If one takes a piece of it and puts it somewhere else, it grows there, to. Richard Stallman ;)
But GNUSmalltalk is GPL and Java not ...
Hmm not entirely : the virtual machine is GPL but the Smalltalk code is under the LGPL. So you can do Smalltalk closed software with GNU Smalltalk...
Specifically if you use an image with "everything in it" to distribute your application, in the way I interpret Section 5 and Section 4.d.0 of LGPL. If you use just .star files I think it's ok, but IANAL so feel free to disagree with me ;-)
Alexandre Drummond.
This may be fixed in future releases, but it is not a very high priority.
Squeak is (eventually) Apache/MIT/BSD. Not quite yet, we're almost there.